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在周一晚上的奧運高空滑冰大跳台比賽中獲得銀牌後,艾琳古高舉手臂慶祝。

顧在周一的大跳台比賽中獲得銀牌,為她令人矚目的奧運獎牌榜再添一筆。但圍繞她的爭議卻並未平息。圖片來源:Oliver Weiken / picture alliance via Getty Images

義大利利維尼奧——即便她表面上並未刻意製造爭議,爭議似乎總是找上門來。 22歲的顧穎琳正在參加她的第二屆奧運會,卻常常身處風暴中心。

「有時候我覺得自己肩負著兩個國家的重擔,」古玥上週在利維尼奧說。週一晚,這位自由式滑雪運動員在女子大跳台比賽中獲得銀牌,贏得職業生涯第五枚獎牌。她正沐浴在本屆冬奧最耀眼的聚光燈下,但與伊利亞·馬利寧、米凱拉·希弗林和馬爾科·奧德馬特不同,這聚光燈與她的成績關係不大。

每當顧雪寶脫下滑雪靴,近百人的隊伍便早已等候在旁。她要花上兩個小時才能完成與國際媒體的互動,也常常被反覆追問同樣的問題。在這種場合下,她展現出迷人的風采、富有啟發性且引人深思的一面,在最大的舞台上盡情展現自己的精湛技藝,英語和普通話切換自如,前一分鐘還在談論特朗普總統,下一分鐘就深入探討跳躍的物理原理。上週獲得坡面障礙技巧賽銀牌後,顧雪寶短暫地離開鏡頭,與在寒風中等候了一個小時、渴望得到她關注的中國粉絲們一同慶祝。 “雪之公主”,他們這樣稱呼她。

「她的人生是所有人中最瘋狂的,」在該賽事中獲得金牌的瑞士選手瑪蒂爾德·格雷莫說道。

據場館媒體經理埃貢·泰納 (Egon Theiner) 稱,顧女士一直是利維尼奧最炙手可熱的運動員。 「我是一名作家,我的工作就是與文字打交道,我聽到她說話,就會想,『我的天哪!』」50歲的泰納說。

她已經超越了滑雪這項運動本身,超越了運動本身。

「成名從來都不是我的目標,」顧說。 “我的目​​標是讓更多人了解這項運動。”

問題是:我們該相信她嗎?

她是一位在美國出生、長大、就讀美國大學的大學生,聽著美國音樂——Metro Boomin、A$AP Rocky,甚至是藍調傳奇人物BB King——卻代表中國參賽。她因2019年離開美國隊,轉而代表母親的祖國中國參賽,而被前NBA球員埃內斯·坎特·弗里德姆稱為“叛徒”,也被保守派評論員斥為“忘恩負義”和“可恥”。

她說自己在史丹佛大學校園內遭到攻擊。儘管一些準學生家長和華裔美國人發起請願,要求阻止她入學,但她還是在2022年被史丹佛大學錄取了。 「我在街上被人毆打,」顧女士說,「我們報了警。」(史丹佛大學警方建議 《The Athletic》聯繫其公共安全部門;截至發稿時,尚未收到回复。)“我收到過死亡威脅,”顧女士補充道,“我的宿舍也被盜了。”

所有這一切——她代表中國參賽這一引發爭議的決定、她在女子自由式滑雪項目中不斷追求歷史、她迅速躥紅的名氣——都是有代價的。

「我22歲的時候經歷了一些事情,我真的覺得任何人都不應該經歷這些事,」顧說。

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自2019年顧穎決定代表母親的祖國中國參賽以來,她一直飽受爭議。她目前仍居住在美國。圖片來源:Kirill Kudryavtsev / AFP via Getty Images

毋庸置疑的是她的運動天賦:她已經是史上成就最高的女子自由式滑雪運動員,擁有20個世界盃冠軍頭銜、兩枚奧運金牌和三枚銀牌。 「她是百年一遇的運動員,」美國單板滑雪傳奇人物肖恩懷特告訴《The Athletic》雜誌。 “她同時還在走秀、贏得獎牌、就讀史丹佛大學。簡直不可思議。她真是個異類。”

的確,現今很少有運動員能像顧雪玲一樣,在小眾運動領域如此有效地開啟自己的成功之路。顧雪玲的足跡遍佈全球人口最多的兩個國家,是體育行銷人員夢寐以求的理想人選。她曾為維多利亞的秘密走秀,登上《體育畫報》泳裝特刊,並在米蘭和巴黎的T台上大放異彩。她的贊助商包括來自西方的紅牛和保時捷,以及來自東方的安踏和TCL電子。根據《富比士》報道,顧雪玲是本屆冬奧收入最高的運動員,不分男女。她每年收入高達2,310萬美元,而其中只有10萬美元來自滑雪。

她享受在美國生活的自由,同時也充分利用了代表中國所帶來的市場機會。而顧女士對她2019年決定的辯護,雖然在美國國內鮮有人信服,但實際上從未改變。

「我在美國長大,有很多偶像可以崇拜,」她在上屆冬奧會上說道。在那屆冬奧會上,她成為首位在單屆冬奧會上獲得三面獎牌的坡面障礙技巧滑雪運動員,一舉成名。 「但在中國,我覺得這樣的偶像少了很多。我在中國能產生的影響力會比在美國大得多,這最終也是我做出這個決定的原因。”

值得注意的是,她當時只有15歲。她最近告訴《時代》雜誌,代表中國公司所帶來的經濟利益從來不是她考慮的因素。

「我最大的目標始終是讓更多年輕人,特別是女孩,參與這項運動中來,」顧女士上週表示。 “我11歲時就第九條修正案和女子體育運動發表了第一次演講,而且我一直堅持不懈地為此努力。”

但顧女士常常避而不談的是,選擇代表一個因剝奪言論自由和迫害政府批評者而受到人權觀察等組織嚴厲批評的國家,會帶來怎樣的道德兩難。 (人權觀察也曾指出,在川普政府時期,美國也存在剝奪自由和迫害批評者的行為,顧女士當時決定代表中國,現在依然如此。)毋庸置疑的是,顧女士從她的決定中獲得了巨大的經濟利益。

《華爾街日報》近期報道稱,顧曉明和另一位美國出生的花式滑冰運動員朱怡(代表中國參加了2022年冬奧會)在2025年共從北京市體育局獲得了660萬美元的報酬,過去三年兩人累計獲得了1400萬美元的報酬。《The Athletic》聯繫顧曉明的經紀人和中國奧運組委會尋求置評,但均未得到回應。美國奧林匹克和殘奧委員會透過其「金牌行動」(Operation Gold)計畫向獎牌得主提供獎金(金牌最高可達37,500美元),但不向運動員支付薪水。

多年來,顧女士在這些方面飽受爭議,尤其是在美國。無論被問到多少次,她的故事始終如一。她認為自己是位拓荒者,一個來自舊金山的小女孩,她討厭自己加入的第一支滑雪隊全是男生。 「我真的很想成為男生,這樣我就可以交朋友了,」她說。這種想法體現在她的穿著和言談舉止上。隨著年齡的增長,她對時尚的熱愛幫助她找到了人生目標。她申請史丹佛大學的論文主題是女性氣質與權力的交匯點,「以運動和時尚作為這兩個切入點,」她解釋道。

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週一的大跳台決賽結束後,顧勇雄受到了大批粉絲的熱烈歡迎。這位人氣選手擁有強大的商業號召力,據報道年收入超過2,300萬美元。 (圖片來源: Patrick Smith / Getty Images)

因此,滑雪就此成為讓她受到全世界關注的途徑。

「水漲船高,所以我很榮幸也很榮幸能擁有現在的這個平台,我深感責任重大,」她說。

但顧先生說,滑雪仍然是「最真實的自我」。

「我來這裡不是因為我不得不來,」她在利維尼奧資格賽首日結束後被問及她在這項運動中無與倫比的成就時說道。 「如果我想袖手旁觀什麼都不做,理論上我可以。但我來到這裡,全身心投入,因為我想來。我來到這裡是因為我熱愛這項運動,因為這是我生來就該做的事。我來到這裡是因為這是世界上最偉大的榮幸,因為這是世界上最精彩的賽事,因為我想代表女子更多的運動,並將這項運動帶給女子更多的人。

顧是目前唯一一位參加自由式滑雪全部三項比賽(坡面障礙技巧、大跳台和U型場地)的女選手,而且她在這三項比賽中獲得的獎牌數(五枚)已經超過了歷史上任何一位自由式滑雪運動員。週日晚間晉級大跳台決賽後,她批評了賽程安排上的衝突,這將導致她錯過一次為U型場地訓練的三小時課程,她稱這「真的非常不公平,也讓我很難接受」。

週一晚,她以一個左手雙空翻1260度加一個“毒抓”的精彩動作強勢回應,從第六名躍升至第二名,最終奪得銀牌。 「我的天哪!」顧雪橇滑下山坡時,她驚叫道。

令人驚訝的是,自從四年前贏得大跳台金牌後,她就再也沒有參加過該項目的比賽。週六晚上,她將在U型場地技巧賽中迎來最後一次衝擊金牌的機會。

正如瑞士選手格雷莫所言,這種「激烈的競爭」激勵著世界頂尖女子自由式滑雪選手不斷挑戰極限。不過,格雷莫也表示她們之間的差距並不大,她形容顧勝宇“更注重展現自己的風格”,其他競爭對手也注意到了這一點。

然而,彼此之間顯然存在著相互尊重。週一晚,18歲的意大利選手弗洛拉·塔巴內利在家鄉父老面前首次亮相奧運賽場便斬獲銅牌,賽後顧女士擁抱了她。 「她鼓勵我們,我們也鼓勵她,」另一位自由式滑雪運動員、法國選手金·杜蒙·扎內拉說。

對顧來說,這場風暴不會很快過去。上週,她被問到這一切的矛盾之處,她一方面渴望激勵年輕女孩,另一方面卻在做著許多人難以理解的事情——在滑雪板上翱翔、旋轉、翻騰——這些對很多人來說仍然遙不可及。

「之所以感覺不相干,是因為我擅長這些,」她說。 “每個人都有自己的愛好、目標和夢想。”

她稍微偏離了主題,然後才強調了自己的觀點。

「尤其是年輕人,不要等到年紀大了才行動,」顧先生說。 「不要等到明天。現在就行動。現在就行動。現在就行動……創造屬於你自己的池塘。這無關緊要迎合現有的模式。這無關緊要成為現有事物中最優秀的人。創造你自己的現實。”

顧女士的成就堪稱世界頂尖,不亞於其他運動員。而且她似乎很滿意由此帶來的名聲和好處。

更正:本文先前版本錯誤地指出了顧宇的贊助商之一。正確的贊助商是TCL電子,而非TLC電子。此外,先前版本也錯誤地描述了朱毅在2026年冬季奧運中的角色。朱毅參加了2022年冬季奧運,但未參加2026年冬季奧運。 

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貓 L.

· 星期二

她在美國出生長大,享受美國的自由,卻對這個讓她受益的國家嗤之以鼻,轉而與另一個國家競爭。

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本·W.

· 星期二

@Cat L.然而,許多與第二國籍聯繫遠不如這位運動員的運動員,也能代表第二國籍參賽而未引起爭議。代表父母的祖國參賽是很常見的做法。

我們為什麼對這位運動員如此耿耿於懷?

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達姆斯滕格

· 星期二

@Ben W.一位有魅力的女性。

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亞瑟·N.

· 星期二

@Ben W.我覺得是國家的問題。當然,她無法決定母親的國籍,但她可以參與決定是否代表這個國家。

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匿名 U.

· 星期二

@Ben W.因為她聰明、有才華、漂亮。

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派崔克·C

· 星期二

@Ben W.大概是因為她選擇代表一個世界上人權記錄最惡劣的國家之一。她收了他們的錢卻什麼也不說。仔細想想,這真是讓人噁心。她聲稱自己是為了樹立榜樣。 「榜樣」?我猜就是滑雪滑得好,收入更高,同時對該國的政治和人權狀況保持沉默,閃爍其詞。我覺得人們對這種虛偽的行為感到憤怒。

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匿名 U.

· 星期二

@Cat L. 你似乎對其他人,比如貝基·哈蒙,就沒有這種程度的憤怒。

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匿名 U.

· 星期二

仔細想想美國現在正在發生的事情,這話其實挺諷刺的。真是高高在上啊。

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加里·B.

· 星期二

@Patrick C.請不要發表這樣的評論,因為美國會在光天化日之下在大街上謀殺自己的公民。

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吉姆·L

· 星期二

@Cat L.還有…你想表達什麼?她對美國沒有任何義務。至少中國承認自己的立場。美國告訴我們享有自由,直到移民局決定逮捕你,只因為你觀看、拍攝或只是做個普通人。正如唐·亨利會說的那樣,“別再糾結了”。

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吉姆·L

· 星期二

@Ben W.我們不是,但有些人是。我不是,如果你有權在規則範圍內代表其他國家參賽並選擇這樣做——那是你的權利!

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布恩特

· 星期二

@Ben W. 因為大多數選手代表母國參賽,是因為他們不夠優秀,無法代表美國——這無可厚非。有些國家獲得了奧運參賽資格,美國也不會因此蒙受損失。但Gu的情況並非如此。

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吉姆·L

· 星期二

@Patrick C.這和一半的美國人一樣虛偽——你擁有權利、自由以及與之相關的一切——前提是你向弗朗普和美國移民及海關執法局低頭!

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吉姆·L

· 星期二

@Gary B.嘿,幹得好!終於有人意識到,在我看來,美國在這方面比中國更糟。中國承認自己的所作所為,但在這裡,不!只要你對川普和移民及海關執法局俯首帖耳,你就能享有自由和權利!

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派崔克·C

· 星期二

@Gary b.請不要無知地將美國與中國在這方面相提並論。請先做一些調查研究。

· 星期二

@Bhunt 這就是確切答案

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加里·B.

· 星期二

@Patrick C.做點調查吧? !每天晚上新聞都在播!

一個在街上屠殺本國公民的國家,在批評其他國家之前應該三思。

我同意,中國的人權狀況遠比美國糟糕,但美國喜歡標榜自己所謂的“美德”,所以你最好做好失敗的準備,而你最近的表現簡直糟糕透頂。

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Clayspires63

· 星期二

其他運動員這樣做是為了參賽。他們可能沒能入選美國隊,沒能得到美國方面的足夠支持,或者美國根本沒有他們所從事項目的參賽資格。但這裡的情況並非如此。

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加里·B.

· 星期二

@Bhunt 所以換句話說,你的意思是說,真正讓美國人不滿的是她剝奪了他們獲得獎牌的榮耀?

這真是太可悲了。

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April_Tam

· 星期二

@Bhunt
說得太對了!就是嫉妒,僅此而已。

· 星期二

@Ben W.因為,不管她怎麼說,很明顯都是為了名利。

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詹姆斯P.

· 星期二

@Ben W.大多數情況下,這些運動員這樣做是因為他們不夠優秀,無法入選本國奧運代表隊,所以代表第二個國家參賽是為了獲得參加奧運會的機會。

其次,顧女士為中國參賽所給的理由完全站不住腳。在中國,包括女子冬季運動在內的田徑運動都得到了大力推廣。事實上,運動員從小就被選拔出來,並獲得大量的國家資助。他們根本不需要額外的激勵或榜樣。顧女士的說法並不真誠——她的決定背後很可能是金錢和/或政治原因。

第三,中國正在利用顧女士達到各種政治目的,而她也樂於被利用。毫無疑問,中國此舉的部分動機是透過拉攏一位華裔美國人來向美國示弱。這至少會引發多重政治影響。

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April_Tam

· 星期二

@Clayspires63 當她(或她媽媽?)做出那個決定時,她才15歲,當時還不是那麼有名。她根本無法保證能入選美國奧運代表隊。中國保證給她一個名額。我想知道你們當中是否有人會因為政治原因而對這樣的保證嗤之以鼻?

假設你的孩子獲得了哈佛大學的入學資格,但你鄙視他們的精英主義。你會建議孩子放棄哈佛,去爭取麻省理工學院的錄取機會嗎?當然,他的機會很大。但如果他因為下次考試失利而落選,你還能睡得著嗎?

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湯姆D

· 星期二

@Cat L.再次說明為什麼人們對主流媒體,尤其是《紐約時報》/《華盛頓郵報》如此極度不信任。這種雙重標準令人震驚。美國運動員會被問到川普的問題,而中國運動員卻被讚揚並獲得3000萬美元的報酬,卻從未被問到任何關於共產主義獨裁政權的爭議性問題。簡直令人難以置信。

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詹姆斯P.

· 星期二

@April_Tam我會為了獲得奧運參賽機會而代表俄羅斯嗎?

絕對不會。

值得一提的是,她的祖父曾是中國政府的高級官員,她的母親畢業於北大。換句話說,這個家族是中國精英權力結構的一部分。

[隱]

· 星期二

[此評論已被舉報,目前正在接受審核]

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路易絲·C.

· 星期二

@Ben W.她長得像模特兒。有多少年輕女孩渴望成為那樣的人?
我覺得如果她現在想代表中國滑雪,也沒什麼問題,尤其是在當今世界經濟情勢下。

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路易絲·C.

· 星期二

@Gary B.沒錯,但中國在這方面有著更悠久的傳統,這一點很重要。

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托尼D

· 星期二

啊……你好,本,也許是因為她的「祖國」是一個專制政權,處處與美國作對,永遠不會讓她享有她真正祖國所賦予的那些自由。如果你需要更多信息,請隨時詢問。

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提姆·S

· 星期三

@Ben W.如果你稍微受過一點教育,並且閱讀過一些來自可靠來源的新聞,比如《紐約時報》(The Athletic 的母公司),你就會知道答案。中國並非普通的國家。它是一個過去和現在都在積極試圖削弱和摧毀美國的國家。所以別試圖把它比喻成美國撐竿跳選手決定代表瑞典參賽。

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丹尼斯·T.

· 星期三

@Tom D.

有人問她關於維吾爾族集中營的問題,這位國際研究專業的學生卻說她對此了解不多,需要“一生的時間去研究”,這種說法令人不齒。

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特里特格里森

· 星期三

這有什麼錯嗎?顧先生來自世界上最資本主義的國家,他只不過是在做美國這個古老的國家教導孩子的道理:金錢至上。

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斯科特D.

· 星期三

關於名利的種種激烈爭論。雖然很多人都追求名利,但這也可以是副產品。舉個例子,如果你是一位才智超群、動力十足、奧運級別的運動員,而且恰好擁有超凡的外貌,那麼名氣或許會找上門來。她既可信又令人驚嘆。

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史蒂文·A.

· 星期三

@Gary B.哇。 Gary,你學到新詞了?你肯定是個硬漢。

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崔登

· 星期三

@Patrick C.美國政府侵犯人權的行為,在你看來,什麼時候才會真正觸動你的神經?還是說,根本不會?

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傑森M

· 星期三

@Patrick C.想像一下,要在代表美國和代表中國之間做出選擇。如果你很在意道德,那無論選哪一個都挺麻煩的。

· 星期三

@Cat L.她追隨金錢的腳步,而歸根結底,這不是最美國式的理念嗎?

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麥克D

· 星期三

她的採訪和新聞發布會聽起來很像幾年前那些接手LIV球包的職業高爾夫球手被反覆追問時說的那些千篇一律的公關廢話。我根本不想在這種破事上擺出一副道德衛士的姿態,因為我們都知道,她做決定的根本原因過去是——將來也永遠是——錢,不管她怎麼蹩腳地辯解。

我只是希望她不要在試圖說服那些還有一絲常識的人相信中國是實現她「一直以來」的「最大目標」(即「讓更多年輕人,尤其是女孩,參與這項運動」)的最佳地點時,公開侮辱他們的智商。我當然知道美國在這方面也有很多問題,但你在美國實現這個目標的幾率肯定比在那個十年前才剛剛廢除獨生子女政策的國家要高……(翻看筆記)

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安朱姆·U.

· 星期三

美國竟然拉攏沙烏地阿拉伯,真是可笑!

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史蒂夫L

· 星期三

@Patrick C.說得對。同時,美國監禁的本國公民人數比地球上任何一個主要國家都多,包括中國和俄羅斯。我只是說說而已。

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麥可R.

· 星期三

@Cat L.更糟的是,正如這篇文章指出的,她還收了中國的錢!是啊,她真是個好榜樣啊…

里克·H.

· 星期三

@Tom D.你是怎麼知道的?

里克·H.

· 星期三

@Patrick C.川普攻擊發表評論的美國運動員。

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喬納森L.

· 星期三

@Ben W.如果是瑞典、墨西哥之類的國家,沒人會覺得有問題。但如果是人權肆意踐踏、在新疆進行種族滅絕的極權政權,情況就完全不同了。

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馬克C.

· 星期三

@Ben W.她之所以招致如此強烈的批評,
原因有四:

1. 她是一位精英運動員,原本可以為美國贏得獎牌。大多數擁有美國雙重國籍的運動員之所以代表其他國家參賽,是因為他們沒能入選美國隊。他們不會像顧女士那樣搶走美國運動員的獎牌;

2. 她背棄美國,為一個明顯對我們懷有惡意的對手效力;

3. 她虛偽地批評美國——她人生中所有的優勢都歸功於美國——卻對中國更為嚴重的人權侵犯保持沉默;

4. 她從中國獲得了巨額報酬,讓她冷落美國、為中國搖旗角色,否認她卻在任何金錢中扮演了任何麻煩。

簡而言之,她是一個貪婪、忘恩負義的偽君子,為了我們最大的對手的利益而犧牲自己的國家。雖然不如本尼迪克特·阿諾德那麼離譜,但也差不多了。

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斯科特D.

· 星期三

@Mark C. Can’t quit the benzos, can you mark

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Anonymous U.

· Wed

@Patrick C. America is not doing so well on the human rights thing currently.

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Billy W.

· Wed

@Patrick C. How is that different from Elon Musk or Tim Cook when they decided to expand manufacturing to China? They profit greatly from China but are also silent and evasive about China's political and human rights record. Why are you not angry about their duplicity? Moreover, Cook and Musk's decisions will reverberate for generations while Gu's impact will last roughly a decade given the short career span of athletes.

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Gary B.

· Wed

@Steven A. Which word Stevie Boy? I’ll let you know if it’s a new one for me.

I know it’s not “fuck” because I’ve been using variations of that word for longer than you’ve been alive.

So let me know Stevie Boy.

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Nytimes

· Wed

@Ben W. Those countries all recognize dual/multi citizenship and the connection of having ties to both. China does not. If you become an American citizen, or citizen of any other country for that matter, you lose your Chinese citizenship. All the other immigrants from China must choose to be American/other or be Chinese, and if they choose the non Chinese option returning to China for a funeral or a sick parent is significantly more difficult. These are special rules made just for her a few others.

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Stephen M.

· Wed

@Ben W. Why are upset about this athlete..
I will take a swing at it.
A) representing China- odds are she wouldn’t be gracing the planet if she was born there- the one child policy and all. It ended in 2016.. Questions..
B) I don’t mind anybody speaking their mind in opposition to their government, but try doing that in China and see the government housing you find yourself in. Questions?
C) She is a glorious athlete, earns her awards. She is representing an oppressive regime. Most folks would be screaming if she was an American representing 1936 Germany in the name of opening doorways.
Consider the Muslims in China today, vs the Jews in 1936 Germany. The Jews at that point had it better since the Muslims have been in in concentration camps for years, and Germany open the first until summer of 1936. Owens dominated the Olympics in 1936. The German refine he made look foolish, was far less brutal in that moment then the Chinese regime is today. Sure the Germans became far worse, Owens is a hero. She is anything but a hero by comparison. We choose to ignore it, which is our burden.

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Stephen M.

· Wed

@Gary B. As long as people continue to risk their lives to get to the United States, it is anything but a failure.
You should preach while standing in front of an open immigration door to the USA. You could tell everybody what’s it like to be trampled to death.

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Stephen M. The door that no longer exists?

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Stephen M.

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@Steve L. If they are guilty of crimes, where would you like to house them?

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Anonymous U.

· Wed

So? She wants to be rich and famous for being a world-class athlete. How is that wrong or surprising?

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Stephen M.

· Wed

@Rick H. The door exists, you just gotta follow the directions instead of just walking in.The line is very, very long. Choose reality, it’s a superior lifestyle.

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Rick H.

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@James P. Tell us how China is using her? I have been wondering where she was for the last 4 years, beyond her modeling career and attending Stanford.

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Ed S.

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@Ben W. ...because (a) she is at the top of her sport worldwide and (b) her presence on the China team is pure sportswashing of China's lack of freedoms and major human's rights violations. Gu would have never ever had the opportunities she had in the U.S. in China to excel as she has.

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Bruce F.

· Wed

@Tom D. I distrust right wing media outlets way more than the NYT/WaPo. It's not even close. Fox 'News' is nothing less than State TV.

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Ed S.

· Wed

@Gary B. ...dumb comment. Not even in the same ballpark. Those murders, horrendous as they were, are an aberration. Anyway, and we in the U.S. fully embraced the right to protest those murders without worrying about being locked up just for speaking up and disagreeing. The level of protest in MN would never ever be allowed in China. Ever. Without violence and threats of being locked up for good.

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Bruce F.

· Wed

@Tony D. Funny how a big percentage of everything we buy comes from China. Are you boycotting China made products? Is anyone?

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Ed S. lol.

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Ed S.

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@Tom D. ...for real. If a Chinese athlete criticized something Xi did, that athlete would cease to exist.

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Mark C.

· Wed

@Anonymous U. Seriously? The US isn't perfect (less so because: Trump) but let someone go on nightly national television in China and call Xi a liar and a cheat and see what happens. Open your eyes....this is at best an apples and oranges comparison but since you are "Anonymous" I'd bet large, you are, like Gu, a paid shill of the Chinese government, making your comment just part the Gu disinformation campaign.

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Stephen R.

· Wed

@Cat L. I guess capitalism is okay as long as American billionaires are cashing in to the detriment of everyone else.

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David L.

· Wed

The incels really hate this girl. I wonder what it is about her that makes it so? Here's a hint: it ain't because she skis for China

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Anonymous U.

· Wed

@Ben W. Getting paid $14 million by the Chinese government is the difference.

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Scott D.

· Wed

@David L. I love it. Good work

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Anonymous U. False.

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Scott D.

· Wed

@David L. Probably not bc she’s really smart either

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Stan B.

· Wed

@Ben W. because Forbes listed her as the highest paid athlete. The athletic tried to crap on the 2nd highest paid athlete at the games too…. Auston Matthews. Make money and The Athletic will make a negative article about you.

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20280632

· Wed

@Cat L. Bigot

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Pnweditor

· Wed

@Anonymous U. : Hammon didn't make the US Olympic team. That's why she got citizenship in another country. Gu would've had no problem being included on the U.S. Olympic team.

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David C.

· Wed

@Ben W. Because in almost all the other situations those athletes had no shot at making the American team so they chose a path that would allow them to be an Olympian. Did you notice today that Levito could have skated for Italy but didn't? Her mom was born in Italy in Milan. Her grandmother lives 13 minutes from the ice skating arena.

But I will play. Zoe Atkin should also be facing the same scrutiny. She has skied for Great Britain her whole competitive life despite being born, living and training in the United States. World champ in half pipe. Neither parent was born in the US, they immigrated to the US. So the way she and her parents show their gratitude for this country? She skis for GB while she also enjoys being educated at Stanford.

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Anonymous U.

· Wed

@Jim L. And we have the right to criticize the hypocrisy behind her decision and call her to account

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Andrew S.

· Wed

@Ben W. This

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Andrew S.

· Wed

@Jason M. Good god man

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Andrew S.

· Wed

@Nancyalee2 thank you for that insightful comment. Something I have always admired about Asian cultures!

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Andrew S.

· Wed

@Ed S. Yep.

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@Cat L. What freedoms? The freedom of speech and of the press that can only be expressed if you agree with the brown coats of this administration? The freedom to support and ignore systematic corruption? The freedom to support overt racism and the apprehending of innocent people walking their children to school? The freedom to lawfully carry a gun and be killed for it? She should finish her studies here in France where we take liberté, égalité, fraternité as a promise and duty for all, and not part of fake patriotism. Not far from me we have the best snow in the world, we welcome civilized people here where you can be who you are and not be afraid of cowboy violence.

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Xiaoyun H.

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@Cat L. She lives 25% of her life in China. She spent every summer there since age 2. She benefited from Chinese support too. She's extremely close to her mother and grandmother who raised her, she wants to honor their heritage, what's wrong with that?




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Chappy206

· Wed

@April_Tam Yes, I would, it’s called a moral compass.

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Nicholas V.

· Wed

@Arthur N. Only one trouble with that.:China does NOT allow dual citizenship….is she or is she not that is the question….

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Arthur N.

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@Nicholas V. Sure…but to what end? Let’s assume she is and holds dual citizenship. It changes little IMO. The controversy remains. And if she isn’t…again, so what? It changes little and the controversy remains.

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Nicholas V. Do a little research. China does not require citizenship to be on their team. There’s zero evidence that Gu has given up her US Citizenship. She’s an international star and model at the age of 22 and travels all over the world on a US Passport. It’s interesting how the Encels on this thread would rather incorrectly quote China than the US. There is a process for renouncing citizenship and she has never done so. Look it all up.

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Arthur N.

· Wed

@Nancyalee2 it’s a good post. And no doubt probably true. So thank you for that insight.

But she had to know the reaction that would come. Frankly I’m surprised how easy the US press has been on her. Not because I don’t understand her perspective, but more because representing a country like China is not that defensible.

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Stephen M.

· Wed

@Xiaoyun H. Cause if she was born there, with her birthdate prior to 2016- they would have killed her under the one child policy.
I might be wrong, but China has a “missing women” issue. 30-40 million more men then women. So I believe I am kinda correct.
If as a woman you wanna honor the society that practiced the systemic destruction of the female gender for a few decades- party on.
If you are Chinese- maybe dress up as a Japanese army trooper and celebrate the rape of Nanking. Doesn’t everybody in China?

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Stephen M.

· Wed

Yes she should. I like Paris. She should wear something clingy and walk around a few of the districts in Paris with a large population of our Muslim cousins.
Those 3 words are foreign to recent arrivals from other parts of the globe, where women are held in something other then “high” reguard.
Am I lying? Have things changed in the last 8 months since my most recent visit? No- I didn’t think so.

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Nicholas V.

· Wed

@Rick H. What I found: Yes, athletes must be Chinese citizens to represent China in the Olympics. However, China has recruited foreign-born athletes, like Eileen Gu and Zhu Yi, who have obtained Chinese citizenship to compete for the national team. This practice has raised questions about dual citizenship, as China does not recognize it, but these athletes often retain their original citizenships.

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Stephen M. Good lord. How many neighborhoods in the US does that apply to? She’s a US citizen but god help her if she walked around ICE.

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Steve S.

· Wed

Oh and China has a superior human rights record?

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Steve S. That’s your best response? Not much of a defense for the US.

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Mike D. She has been responding to these slurs for 7 years. Kinda hard to come up with a new answer.

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Brian F.

· Wed

@Damstenger Ridiculous. She sold out her country-- the country where she still lives, attends school and benefits from its freedoms-- to compete for its primary geopolitical rival. Her looks and her gender are irrelevant to the discussion. If she were a man, or if she were unattractive, or if she did the same thing but did it for Russia, the criticisms would be just as loud and just as valid.

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Brian F.

· Wed

@Anonymous U. Chloe Kim is smart, talented and attractive. I'd wager that almost everyone who criticizes Gu is rooting for Kim.

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Brian F.

· Wed

@Anonymous U. What do you know about what Cat L. thinks about Becky Hammon? Charges of hypocrisy require an actual contradictory statement, not an imagined one.

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John E.

· Wed

@Cat L."Benefitted". That's a bit much.

American "freedoms"..uh huh. that is a bit laughable since the underpinnings of inequality, racism (especially against Asian-Americans) are now laid bare more than ever before.

I would also say that the US is giving China a run for its money in the human rights abuses department for decades. It was just hidden better in the past.

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Large Black Man K.

· Wed

@ never going to listen to a French person on ANYTHING. Glass houses and all that 😭😭

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Andrew L.

· Wed

@Patrick C. Yes, the US is all about human rights these days.

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Joel R.

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@Cat L. I just don’t get why she wears so much damn makeup to go skiing.

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Andrew L.

· Wed

@Denise T. How many 22 year old athletes have a coherent answer regarding the Uyghurs that would satisfy whatever you're looking for from her?

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Andrew L.

· Wed

@Rick H. Yeah, those athletes are really "enjoying American freedoms". Nothing to see here.

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Jim A.

· Wed

Why the hell do you care? How does her citizenship affect you?

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Andrew L.

· Wed

@Mark C. Listen, I'm not saying that China isn't messed up in all kinds of ways - all countries are to some degree, but China has also been a foreign boogeyman in the US since at least the 70s. The US does everything it can to undermine China, as well.

Also, she grew up in America and has the freedom to make her own choices, even if you don't agree with them.

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Large Black Man K.

· Wed

@Andrew L. That’s right Andrew, she does have that freedom. But so does everyone else in having the right to criticize her for being a condescending, pretentious hypocrite. A freedom that she would not have with the CCP. The world isn’t black-and-white, and you’d find it impossible to find a country that hasn’t done wrong in the name of their own prosperity. Relative to each other, it’s not close. Grow up.

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Jim A.

· Wed

How did she sell out her country? Did she give away the US ski team's greatest secrets? Does she tell the Chinese team which American skiers are improving, knowledge picked up by pretending to model? Calling it a sell out or treason is more than a little paranoid on your part.

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Large Black Man K.

· Wed

@Jim A. Grow the fuck up Jim. If you don’t think the CCP is using her to get information on people at Stanford campus, or even fellow students, you do not know a god damn thing about international espionage. US would use someone the exact same way.

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Ctrimble469

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@Cat L. Disagree, she is free to make a choice which is hers to own and she does that well. People are too fearful and judgmental of what they can’t control. Good luck to this talented and intelligent woman.

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Large Black Man K.

· Wed

@John E. You’re a mouth-breather. I’d wager that extra chromosome you are showing is contagious, as well.

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Noah W.

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@Cat L. Good thing that's her decision to make and not yours

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Matt Y.

· Thu

@Terrytgerritsen the problem is her crying about it. Sure take the money, but don’t act surprised about the public backlash from making that decision.

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Rick H.

· Thu

@Patrick C. And yet you and all the Magaq think American athletes should keep their mouths shut and not complain about conditions in the US.

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Erik B.

· Thu

@Ben W. Because China is directly paying her millions of dollars a year to compete for them

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William T.

· Thu

@Jim L. Show me where China admits its human rights abuses.

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Stephen M.

· Thu

@Rick H. “Good Lord” Thanks for the compliment, I am good. I have France boy a reality slap, I don’t deny those issues exist in the USA.
Walking around ICE, or any law enforcement, means a day of safety. Unless some peaceful protester confuses you with law enforcement. Then you might get doxxed.

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A S.

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@Ben W.As a parent of a 17 and 18 year old Alpine racer I’ll share my perspective. When a child is racing U10, 12 its fun. At U14, since its a sport highly dependent on money racers and parents make choices. Our kids weren’t top 10 in our region so they went off to a normal high school, and won state and regional high school medals, training like normal high school athletes, a couple of hours a day for a few weeks. The bests kids went to ski academies like our local Burke, Vermont. These kids train every day from 14, they study at night. They travel all year to train. Finally when you are out and you see you are number 7 out of 120 Americans you think that maybe those discussions of being a dual in another country should be pursued. (Ski Academies are amazingly diverse international melting pots with students and coach’s so all idea’s are discussed). It’s a once in a lifetime chance to finish a dream. Many small countries have team rosters positions 4,5,6 being by big powers from US, Canada, Switzerland, France, etc. Slovakia has Petra, but also Peter Hinds from Alaska. He will never win a medal but Alaska is happy to see one of theirs at the big show.

But Gu is different. She wasn’t 7,8,9. She was ranked 1,2, in several events. A true superstar. I dont have any hard feelings about Gu but this is definitely a different story.

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Mick B.

· Fri

@Gary B. not like China or anything......

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Mick B.

· Fri

@Gary B. Murders, you keep using this word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

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Doctoro44

· Fri

@Ben W. Because she's great at what she does - she wins golds and silvers, and every country wants an athlete like that. If she weren't a medal contender, we wouldn't know about her.

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Doctoro44

· Fri

@Anonymous U. True. I always defended Hammon's decision to compete for Russia because she wasn't even invited to the US Olympic tryouts. Her dream was to be an olympian, and though she was one of the top US guards, she wasn't even granted the opportunity to represent the US. So she took the only avenue available to realize her olympic dream. If she had been given the chance to make the US team and failed, she probably could have lived with that.

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Karen S.

· Fri

@Ben W. Because those other athletes aren't paid millions of dollars by their parents' home countries. Gru "carries the weight" of only one country; her paymaster China.

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John M.

· Fri

@Cat L. This is totally American. Free market only works for the rich? There's any number of American athletes competing for other countries.

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David H.

· Fri

@Ben W., perhaps because the country she's chosen to represent is the largest single American adversary.

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David H.

· Fri

@Gary B. you're delusional.

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Roger C.

· Fri

@Patrick C. Eh. The US is coming up on the outside closing fast.

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Richard K.

· Fri

@Ben W. Unfortunately because this athlete chooses to represent a communist dictatorship that murders its own people for organ transplants, starved 65 million to death under Mao, and represents a threat to every democracy in the world.

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Kyle S.

· Fri

@Gary B. The two things should not be conflated as the same. Both are bad but we have every leg to stand on criticizing China when the two situations are:
Situation 1 (USA): An elected president carries out policies that half the nation is in constant uproar about (protests are in every city, every weekend). The people murdered in the street are horrific accidents from an untrained agency from a disgusting policy. These actions have been under a constant attack by half the country making their voices heard. There's even been ICE removal from Minneapolis! This situation is far from ideal, but the administration will listen if the public pushback is severe enough!
Situation 2 (China): The government has a POLICY to eradicate a minority group through sterilization and death camps (Uyghur genocide). This is only one example of a human rights violation by them. If any citizen publicly criticizes the government, they mysteriously disappear.

I despise the current administration and everything it is doing/stands for.
However, to pretend we are as bad or worse than the violations that happen in China is laughably untrue. Both things are bad. One thing is so much worse for every reason you can possibly imagine.

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Kyle S.

· Fri

@April_Tam She literally had won 1st place in an international freestyle ski competition FOR the USA before switching to China. Sounds like she had a good chance of making the US team... on top of this, she claims to have wanted to inspire young girl skiers in China. Her decision had nothing to do with this "guaranteed spots" thing that you are wrongfully assuming. Sloppy comment! Shame!

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Kate.spahr

· Fri

@Patrick C. Oh? Have you heard of ICE?

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Pat Y.

· Fri

@Gary B. Not related to Gu. No need to drag your politics to this point?

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Kate.spahr

· Fri

@Patrick C. Patrick, do you have any idea how much our government is spying on us every day? And without our consent?
I'll give you two examples to look into: Flock and Persona. We may not be on par with China in terms of invasion into our personal lives, but we are on a fast track to be just as bad.

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Medius ..

· Fri

@Anonymous U. Drama queen

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Kay K.

· Fri

@Denise T. Understatement.

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Bam

· Fri

@Jason M. But the thing is she chose to represent China before Trump

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Bam

· Fri

@Kate.spahr she chose to represent China before Trump though. So

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Jin Y.

· Fri

@Anonymous U. Lots of lesser athletes can only gain eligibility through countries they have relationships with. I find it so silly when this is brought up. Most Americans want to represent America, are desperate to do so.

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Mark S.

· Sat

@Cat L. I’m not American, or Chinese, but looking at this from the outside, I do kinda see your point……

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Fox T.

· Mon

@Ben W. I challenge the idea it's common to represent a parents home country if you were born in a different one and could compete for your own. I don't believe it.

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Kris M.

· Yesterday

@Stephen M. >> A) representing China- odds are she wouldn’t be gracing the planet if she was born there- the one child policy and all. It ended in 2016.. Questions..

That's blatantly conjecture without merit. Millions of Chinese girls have been born in China who are about Eileen's age.

· Yesterday

So Patrick, other than sports do you follow the news? The current regime is shooting American citizens dead in the streets for exercising the civil rights the current regime is trying to erase. We are brutally arresting people and shipping them to our new and not so shiny clean concentration camps. Meanwhile womens' civil rights are being erased. So drop the human rights blather because there is no difference any more. Or is it about a successful athlete who is a woman monetizing her fame. Weak stuff dude.

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Dave H.

· 20h 31m ago

@Patrick C. I guess it’s also kind of gross that 90% of the products you use every day are from China and you say nothing about it.

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Anonymous U.

· 11h 41m ago

@Cat L. By “thumbs her nose” you mean “competes for a different country”? That’s a pretty hyperbolic use of the term…

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Anonymous U.

· 11h 39m ago

@Patrick C. Did you write this being ironic or no? Lmao


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Mimbreno O.

· Tue

Good on her. It’s her decision to do what she pleases.

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Jim V.

· Tue

@Mimbreno O. If only the Uyghurs got the same choice....

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Luke W.

· Tue

Congrats for entirely missing the point

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Lenaerts

· Wed

@Jim V. Sure, and we continue to treat the Native Peoples with the same care and love that we have always shown them. Do you remember,"People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"?

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Susan L.

· Wed

@Lenaerts yeah I mean look at all the casinos the Chinese let the Uyghurs open on tribal land.

· Wed

@Lenaerts you’re right, no nation is allowed to discourage genocide if they have any similar history. Everybody gets a turn. Only fair.

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Large Black Man K.

· Wed

@ I don’t think they’re bright enough to pick up on your sarcasm there.

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Sarah S.

· Sat

@Susan L. A couple of casinos don’t erase centuries of systematic abuse and persecution that the US government has inflicted on native people. Casinos don’t make up for years of stolen land and stolen children.


🫡

· Tue

It is quite funny for an American outlet to grandstand about human rights abuses and denying freedoms at the current moment. Also, as noted by others, it seems like such a small issue, if you can even call it that. She seems like a delightful person who is very well spoken. Hope she continues to do well!

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Phil B.

· Tue

@🫡 did you read? The author mentioned the US.

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Joel O.

· Wed

@🫡 Imagine actually thinking the human abuses over decades in China, include the death of millions by famine and war is comparable to the current moment in American politics. This is brain rot in first form.

🫡

· Wed

@Joel O. Americas legacy is purely death and destruction of the global south. You need to open a book and realize that the impact of more than a half century of being the world police and ruling with an iron fist does not bode well for foreign relations. If we are to focus on the last 3 or 4 decades though, why would we not bring up the development and urbanization of China, the rapid rise of literacy rates and drop in poverty rates etc.?

Most Americans are vastly unaware of the actual situations they talk about, and only know hot button talking points that have varying levels of propaganda. Most Americans will point to Tianaman Square or the Uyghurs but have no real knowledge outside of a few headlines.

🫡

· Wed

@Phil B. Just a mention does not necessarily paint the full picture. The athletes that represent the US are not asked if their morals are compromised by representing the nation. In fact if they do draw a distinction, the same people who condemn Gu for representing China get upset that they are shirking the honor of representing the country. People hate China, that's fine, but acknowledge that the hate is based in opposition to the US rather than wholly substantial issues.

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Rick H.

· Wed

@🫡 sheesh Didn’t Trump just bash an American athlete for expressing an opinion?

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Joel O. Start with the genocide of the American Indian.

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David C.

· Wed

Written by a Chinese AI bot?

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Susan L.

· Wed

@🫡 Xi's burner account. Emoji head here dreams of nothing more than standing atop the great wall and grabbing his ankles so someone from the CCP can drive a BYD right up his chute.

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Paul M.

· Wed

@🫡 or. No.

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Hunter J.

· Thu

@🫡 US athletes are asked that often?? US athletes speak all the time about problems they have with US politics and what they represent… It’s incredibly common. To not ask her about the same would just be special treatment

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Rick H.

· Thu

@Hunter J. And Trump attacks them if they do.

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Tim S.

· Thu

@🫡 where is the grandstanding? they are reporting on the controversy - i dont see any conclusions from the authors themselves. telling that youre so thin skinned about this.

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Hunter J.

· Thu

@Rick H. Exactly, and they do it anyway! The current state of our country is incredibly disheartening, but American flaws aren’t a reason to shield criticism of China. We can hold people to the same standard

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Rick H.

· Thu

@Hunter J. Criticize all you like but don’t try to make it about the athletes.

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Hunter J.

· Thu

@Rick H. I’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing anymore? My argument is that it’s fair to question athletes/public figures about the politics of the countries they represent. Is that something you agree or disagree with?

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Rick H.

· Thu

@Hunter J. Fair?? No. Particularly when the point is to trash them for their opinions. See how easy it is to give a yes/no answer?

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Arthur N.

· Fri

@Rick H. I’m giving that round to Hunter. 2 points!

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Anonymous U.

· 11h 38m ago

@Joel O. You should probably reread the history of America.


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Naomi K.

· Tue

The amount of time and energy spent on discussing Eileen’s choice to ski for China vs other (and many) athletes who choose to represent European nations is glaring.

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David G.

· Tue

@Naomi K. I can’t think of European countries that have slave camps like with the Uyghurs

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Nay N.

· Tue

@David G. Have you seen the state of our prison system and the ICE detention centers? Cast not stones lest you be judged yourself.

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Davis B.

· Tue

@Nay N. America is doing some really terrible things right now, but we aren't committing a genocide!

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Carlos V.

· Tue

Thers no prison camp nor forced labor(slavery) like what China is doing with the Ulghars. Stop the BS.

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T M.

· Tue

@Davis B. Who provided Israel their weapons?

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Davis B.

· Tue

@T M. The majority of Israeli weapons are indigenously produced. Say what you actually mean and skip to denying the ongoing genocide of religious minorities in China.

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David C.

· Tue

@Nay N. Whataboutism

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Davis B.

· Tue

@Julie C. Wow! You got me! Because I think that China (a country which has been shown again and again to lack the most basic degree of respect for human rights) murdering protestors en-masse and committing an ongoing genocide for ~8 years now is bad, I must support ICE's lunatic thugs!

Drop the whataboutism, say what you mean and defend a genocide coward.

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Anonymous U.

· Tue

@David G. You never heard of the USSR or Russia? You act like Gulags are a thing of the past.

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Phil H.

· Tue

Do the others get paid $5 million plus by the chosen government each year?

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Julie C.

· Tue

@Davis B. What's the difference between genocide and erhnic cleansing

What's a genocide coward

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Gary B.

· Tue

@David G. Can you think of any countries that murder their citizens on the streets? I can name at least one.

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Gary B.

· Tue

@Carlos V. It’s coming Carlos. Take your head out of the sand.

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Jim L.

· Tue

@David G. Yeah, but the US does and they are buying and building more!

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Jim L.

· Tue

@Davis B. You, obviously, get your news from somewhere different than I do. What do you think ICE is doing?

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Davis B.

· Tue

@Julie C. Answer the question, coward. Is China commuting a genocide?

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Davis B.

· Tue

@Jim L. ICE is committing unlawful and barbaric mass-deportations and detainments of immigrants and U.S. citizens alike. I know that, I hate it, I protest against it. However I'm capable of understanding nuance and seeing that a country where the illegal murder of civilian protestors is a national outrage is a little better than a country where the murder of civilians is so normalized and common that even if they had a free press it wouldn't be newsworthy.

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Nay N.

· Tue

@David C. In what universe is bringing up our prison system and ICE detention in relation to the Uyghur camps whataboutism? It's to say we don't have a moral high ground.

Were you aware that slavery and forced labor are still legal in the US for convicts? It could be for weed possession, a bounced check or "resisting arrest and assaulting an officer", a favorite charge against minorities and the poor. If you're a dang dirty criminal you just forfeited all of your rights!

Are you aware of 'pay to stay' in most prisons, where prisoners accrue debt typically $40-60 every day they stay there, but are only paid around 25-40 cents an hour? It means someone can work 60 hours a week, save every single penny they earned, and still walk out of there after 3 years owing $60k in fees. It's almost as if the system makes it almost impossible for regular people to escape the jaws of the prison system once they're in it. Could it possibly be related to the nearly free labor that these prisoner/slaves provide?

But no, comparing Chinese work camps to American prisons is just reckless whataboutism.

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John B.

· Tue

@T M. Us. And they should get more because there will be more October 7s.

· Tue

@Davis B. Black People would beg to differ

· Tue

@Carlos V. We have prison camps and slave labor, are you familiar with the 13th amendment?

Our “criminal justice system” is a system of prisons with forced labor and our racist justice system disproportionately incarcerates Black people.

· Tue

@Davis B. Not really
We have slave labor and genocide
Look at the constitution
What do you think we do with all the Black men we put in prison??
We don’t do that to white men

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Painter 3.

· Tue

@T M. Who provided Hamas with US military assessments of Israeli defense weaknesses and received $2 billion from the Saudis?

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Johnmatias

· Tue

@Davis B. Well said.

· Tue

@Davis B. But we've strongly supported a country that is.

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Louise C.

· Tue

@Nay N. it’s still not the same,

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Chris M.

· Wed

@T M. Who provides Russia theirs?

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Scott D.

· Wed

@Nay N. And the ones in El Salvador

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Steven A.

· Wed

@Nay N. It is certainly fair to adamantly criticize Trump and ICE actions. It is ignorant to think these atrocities compare to China.

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Jason D.

· Wed

@Davis B. Just selective murdering.

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Shawn G.

· Wed

@David G. or the U.S., increasingly

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Davis B. We are certainly loving and enabling the genocide in Gaza.

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Lenaerts

· Wed

@David G. Sure, and we have shown the world how to behave with our massacre of Native Peoples and the reservation system. Shame on us!

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Davis B. What he means is the US integral to Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Davis B. Commuting?

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Large Black Man K.

· Wed

@T M. There is a special place in the world for people like you, and it’s called the short bus.

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Noah W.

· Thu

@Davis B. we are only actively funding and arming them!

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Hunter J.

· Thu

@Nay N. The secret third option is criticizing all bad things and weighing their significance accordingly. Governments are not people, they should all be judged at all times.

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Jeremy S.

· Fri

@David G. That's rich as we in the US prepare to spend over $30B to build what are essentially ICE concentration camps (and not incidentally, from which our POSPOTUS will profit in violation of the Emoluments Clause).


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Jimmy M.

· Tue

You are not carrying the weight of America on your shoulders. You are also not carrying the weight of China on your shoulders. You are smart, athletic, pretty and have poise. You are not a role model. You are not an agent of change. You have delusions of grandeur and you sold your talents to the highest bidder. Your loyalty is to the almighty Dollar. So, stop with the pretentiousness. Take your money and fame and be happy.

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Joseph F.

· Tue

@Jimmy M. I think you can criticize her choice if you want but I think being smart and athletic is the kind of role models we want for our daughters, no? Isn’t the whole point we want to see our daughters, wives, sisters use their intelligence or athletic talent to excel in their chosen field? If not, then I’m wondering who you actually consider to be a role model.

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Kaiting Z.

· Tue

@Joseph F. many women are smart and athletic. your daughter will probably relate to someone she sees herself in, such as having the same upbringing and overcome the same difficulties, or being invested in the same interest. To girls in China, i doubt many of them found Gu's upbringing or interest relatable.

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Jimmy M.

· Wed

@Joseph F. A perfect role model does not exist. I am certainly not wanting my daughter to model herself after anyone famous. If you want a role model, then look in your family tree, look in your neighborhood. You will find plenty of suitable and relatable role models.

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Jimmy M. Sorry I work in child abuse and protection. Ask all those children in foster homes who their role model is.

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Jimmy M.

· Wed

@Rick H. Who is their role model? obviously not everyone can look in their family but there are others

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Jimmy M. The dollar is almighty in the US. What could be more American?

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Jimmy M.

· Wed

@Rick H. I don't disagree. I don't blame her for chasing the bag. Just spare me the social justice window dressing. I would respect Gu more if she would drop her entitlement attitude. The world is neither a better nor worse place because of Eileen Gu. She is not some hero or role model.

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Jimmy M. A description that would apply to most of us. A lot of people on SS have an entitlement attitude.

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Jimmy M.

· Wed

@Rick H. She certainly is exhibiting American traits. Look, if she was a real hero then she would be pursuing change in China. She is not.

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Rick H.

· Wed

@Jimmy M. Really? She is a professional skier and model. She has never claimed to be a hero. The people of Minneapolis are the real heroes!

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Jimmy M.

· Thu

@Rick H. today
"Sometimes I feel like I’m carrying the weight of two countries on my shoulders,”

"In the U.S. growing up, I had so many idols to look up to,” she said at the last Olympics, where her stardom erupted after she became the first slopestyle skier to win three medals at a single Games. “But in China, I feel like there are a lot fewer of those. I’d have a much greater impact in China than in the U.S., and that’s ultimately why I made my decision.”

She sees herself as a trailblazer.

"A rising tide raises all boats, and so I’m honored and privileged to have the platform that I do, and I take it with great responsibility,” she said.

"I’m not here because I have to be...I want to represent women’s skiing and bring it to more people.”

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