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Like Lee Anderson or Danny Kruger? Be serious - we know what these people are like. We hear Trump and Farage spouting their crap every day. They have absolutely nothing serious to say. They're grifters.
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PhillyLHB
WinstonWolfe
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Are they the only ones?
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tuxedocat
10 hours ago
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Welcome to 1930s Germany.
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frustratedgooner
10 hours ago
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Like George Carlin said "its a big club and you aint in it"
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pichard
10 hours ago
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At this stage, if I were Macron, I would not even try to form a government. I would tell the French parliament to decide by a majority to form a grouping that secures a majority representation and to nominate a PM. I would communicate this decision through an address to the nation.
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SOUTHERNBIAS
10 hours ago
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Mmm, yes, let's exchange a political class we can vote out for one we can't, makes perfect sense.
The corruption we see here is nothing compared to Erdoğan or Putin.
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eibhear
10 hours ago
5
Good article, Mr. Tisdall, but any suggestions as to what we can do about it?
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CommunityMod
10 hours ago
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FantaPants
10 hours ago
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Considering the absolute shower if proverbial sh!t that the last decade or so of progressive governments have left us all to wallow in, is it any surprise that their please for belief, trust and just give us another chance are falling in deaf ears across the globe?
It's been a cabal of blue sky thinking with little to show for transformative change is anything but thought. People are right frustrated and are taking those frustrations with them to the ballot box.
As Bill Clinton is rumoured to have said when Hillary was beaten by Trump... Brexit is real.
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Iggytop
10 hours ago
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How can any society consider itself democratic, when people are being imprisoned for expressing views that are contrary to the views of the people who they 'chose' to represent them.?
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Papaplone
10 hours ago
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Let’s not forget the impact of the Covid epidemic, it was a once in a lifetime event whose economic social and political impact continues to be felt. Alienation, paranoia and deprivation are the seedlings of a populist uprising and they were turbo boosted during the pandemic.
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Westmead2025
10 hours ago
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Many people have made the same point, essentially the contradictions of the Chicago School of Economics and their brave new neo liberal approach, with privatisation, globalism and libertarianism Stinks.
It never could work and now relies on democracy deniers like Trump to maintain the sham of political choice.
Until labour abandon tory neo lib policies and work with the Greens and LDs in England, nothing will change.
People who think voting for Reform will improve things are in for a rude awakening, they will give us even more of the Chicago School bullshit.
We need a political movement that delivers the social democratic policies that have been abandoned since Thatcher wrecked everything.
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bobby31
Westmead2025
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Fully agree. Macron's problem stem from his whohearted embrace of the neoliberal sham. Until and unless he gives in to demand for a tax on the very wealthy and starts tackling inequality the political situation will continue to favour populists. The same applies to the Western countries in thrall to the US imported neoliberal dogma.
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Chourmo
bobby31
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Macronism was the final throw of the dice for the European ‘centrist’ project, that it has failed on every level says much about our present dysfunction. A class of politicians and policy makers out of ideas, yet, unwilling to embrace the changes that everyone knows is needed to reverse the slide toward extremism.
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eibhear
Westmead2025
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I think you're being overly charitable. Reform candidates probably can't even spell "Chicago School bullshit".
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JohneyRuscombe
10 hours ago
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Simon, cheerful as ever.
But, sadly, not wrong.
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IUsed2BeID1516963
10 hours ago
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Another article long on analysis short on solutions. If democracy was a patient it would have had so many 2nd opinions we'd have lost count yet we keep looking in vain for the prescription, the remedy.
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Beauford
10 hours ago
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Because politicians DON'T DELIVER. I was listening to Jeremy Hunt the other day. He sounded sensible and rational. Even praised Sir Keir for his statesmanship. Post office he is a reasonable person who recognizes the issues facing the country and has sensible solutions. (OK lefties may quibble but) So why CAN'T THEY DO IT IN OFFICE? Sorry for the TRUMP CAPS.
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Westmead2025
Beauford
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I have seen Cleverly at various times on Newsnight, he comes across as erudite and reasonable.
It must be standing or sitting next to a tory that turns him into an idiot who repeats the same tosh that other tories provide.
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MBeaufou
10 hours ago
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For people of a certain age such as me, it is the disintegration of an elite which we have witnessed over time.
You could disagree with all your political opponents but still respect their beliefs, knowledge and their commitment.
I despised Mitterand but would have never entered a room to argue with the man, he was a hundred miles ahead of me.
Nowadays i have no such fear, they are médiocre, self service little bureaucrats waiting for their turn.
The answer will come from extremes proving their pathetic opposition to everything at all times being just what it is, opposition, chaos, nonsense.
Let them rule for a bit and see how it goes, let the fools who believe in them get crushed.
Lepen, Mélenchon... every dog has his day, my anger is towards the people who are so easily led, the media giving an auditorium to charlatans such as Faure or Tondelier who represent a grand 3% of the electorate.
Enough is enough.
La Raison d'État demands certain sacrifices, not just bits from dreamers who think eating brocoli, dry toilets or farting at an air turbine will save the planet.
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