弗拉基米爾·澤連斯基
當被問及烏克蘭總統澤倫斯基是否能夠襲擊莫斯科等目標時,他回答說:「只要你們給我們武器,我們就能做到。」© Antonio Masiello/Getty Images
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據了解討論情況的人士透露,唐納德·川普私下鼓勵烏克蘭加強對俄羅斯領土的深度打擊,甚至詢問弗拉基米爾·澤連斯基,如果美國提供遠程武器,他是否可以打擊莫斯科。
這場對話發生在 7 月 4 日美國和烏克蘭領導人的通話中,這與川普先前對俄羅斯戰爭的立場以及他結束美國介入外國衝突的競選承諾截然不同。
儘管目前尚不清楚華盛頓是否會運送此類武器,但此次討論凸顯了川普對俄羅斯總統普丁拒絕參加美國總統提出的停火談判日益加深的不滿,普丁曾誓言要在一天內解決戰爭。
7 月 4 日與澤連斯基的通話是由於川普前一天與普丁的通話而引發的,美國總統稱這通通話「很糟糕」。
兩位熟悉川普和澤連斯基談話內容的人士表示,美國總統曾詢問烏克蘭總統,如果澤倫斯基提供能夠打擊俄羅斯境內軍事目標的武器,他是否可以打擊俄羅斯境內的軍事目標。
據知情人士透露,川普在通話中問道:“弗拉基米爾,你能打到莫斯科嗎?……你還能打到聖彼得堡嗎?”
他們說,澤連斯基回答說:“當然可以。只要你們給我們武器,我們就可以。” 
據兩位了解通話情況的人士透露,川普表示支持這一想法,稱該戰略旨在“讓他們(俄羅斯人)感受到痛苦”,並迫使克里姆林宮坐到談判桌前。
一位獲悉這次通話的西方官員表示,這通電話反映出烏克蘭的西方夥伴越來越渴望提供能夠「把戰爭帶到莫斯科」的遠程武器——最近幾週,美國官員私下也表達了同樣的看法。
白宮和烏克蘭總統辦公室沒有回應置評請求。
據三位知情人士透露,川普和澤連斯基之間的討論促使美國方面上週在羅馬與烏克蘭總統分享了一份可能向基輔提供的武器清單。
在與美國國防官員和北約政府中間人會晤期間,澤倫斯基收到了一份可能透過第三方轉讓提供給烏克蘭的遠端打擊系統清單。
這項安排將允許川普透過授權向歐洲盟友出售武器來規避國會目前對美國直接軍事援助的凍結,然後歐洲盟友將把這些系統轉交給基輔。
烏克蘭曾要求取得「戰斧」飛彈,這是一種射程約1600公里的精確打擊巡航飛彈。但一位知情人士透露,川普政府——與拜登政府一樣——對烏克蘭缺乏克制感到擔憂。
週一,川普在橢圓形辦公室與北約秘書長馬克·呂特會晤時,宣布了一項向烏克蘭提供愛國者防空系統和攔截飛彈的計劃,但並未透露其他武器系統的交付情況。

美國總統表示,他對俄羅斯及其總統在結束戰爭的協議方面缺乏進展感到「非常不滿」。 “我對[弗拉基米爾]普丁總統感到失望,因為我以為我們兩個月前就能達成協議了。”
俄羅斯安全委員會副主席、前普丁代理總統梅德韋傑夫對川普的決定不以為然。 「川普向克里姆林宮發出了戲劇性的最後通牒……俄羅斯不在乎,」梅德韋傑夫在X上寫道。
兩位了解川普和澤連斯基通話情況並熟悉美烏軍事戰略討論的人士表示,通話中討論的一種武器是陸軍戰術飛彈系統(Atacms)。
烏克蘭使用美國提供的射程可達300公里(186英里)的「阿塔克姆」飛彈,打擊俄羅斯佔領區內的目標,有時甚至深入俄羅斯境內。 「阿塔克姆」飛彈可以透過拜登政府交付給烏克蘭的「海瑪斯」火箭系統發射。但它們的射程不足以到達莫斯科或聖彼得堡。
俄羅斯曾多次威脅要攻擊西方目標,以回應西方向烏克蘭提供先進武器,但尚未採取行動。
去年 11 月,烏克蘭首次使用 Atacms 系統襲擊俄羅斯主權領土內的軍事目標後,普丁表示這場戰爭“具有了全球性因素”,並通過在第聶伯羅市試射了一枚實驗性中程導彈 Oreshnik 進行回應。
俄羅斯總統表示,莫斯科有權「使用我們的武器對付那些允許使用武器攻擊我們設施的國家的軍事設施,如果侵略行動升級,我們將同樣果斷和對稱地作出回應」。
在「阿塔克姆」飛彈襲擊之後,俄羅斯也發布了其核理論的更新版本,降低了潛在使用門檻。這些變化可能意味著俄羅斯將對北約三大核大國——美國、英國和法國——實施先發制人的核打擊,以回應烏克蘭使用「阿塔克姆」飛彈和「風暴陰影」飛彈等武器襲擊俄羅斯。
華盛頓曾多次警告烏克蘭不要使用這些武器深入俄羅斯境內,但現在這些限制似乎都有所放鬆。
烏克蘭主要使用國產遠程無人機襲擊俄羅斯腹地的軍事目標,為其戰爭機器提供燃料。
烏克蘭最大膽的襲擊發生在6月初,當時烏克蘭安全局(SBU)發射了大批藏匿在預製房屋內的自殺式無人機,這些無人機被走私到俄羅斯,襲擊了該國的戰略轟炸機編隊。在整個戰爭期間,這些飛機都曾參與莫斯科對烏克蘭城市的轟炸。在基輔稱之為「蜘蛛網行動」的行動中,至少有12架飛機嚴重受損或被摧毀。

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19世紀和20世紀的歐洲戰爭再次上演……太驚人了。烏克蘭被摧毀,俄羅斯衰弱。這一切究竟是為了什麼?
莫斯科必須感受到馬裡烏波爾等地所遭受的痛苦。只有這樣,他們才會在紅場上丟下假麥當勞薯條,迫使納粹普丁停火撤軍。
從這項舉措到次級關稅,川普實際上是在玩火。
必須給予烏克蘭足夠的手段來打擊俄羅斯飛彈和無人機發射場。
俄羅斯軍事體系遭受屈辱的場景幾乎每天都可見。
俄羅斯軍隊無法準確瞄準目標。普丁當然對自己帶給烏克蘭人民的恐怖感到欣喜,平民的死亡無疑讓他感到欣慰。
烏克蘭令人欽佩地證明,他們可以打擊深入俄羅斯領土的軍事目標!
如果他們能夠打擊莫斯科等人口密集中心附近的更多軍事目標,這將是一個巨大的進步。
但不應發生平民傷亡。
因為美國的技術(我們不應該忘記金牛座和其他歐洲先進系統!)可能非常有價值。
普丁對此深感恐懼,並為此降低了核子門檻。單憑這一點,就足以成為深入俄羅斯領土、靠近平民百姓發動攻擊的絕佳誘因和理由。
俄羅斯人還沒有看到足夠的製裁和破壞。
同樣應該針對能源基礎設施,以便讓俄羅斯民眾了解這場戰爭會帶給他們多大的痛苦。
川普反覆無常,前後矛盾。但為了普丁的下台,還是可以取得很多進展的。
無論正確與否,烏克蘭可能襲擊莫斯科這一可能性本身就足以產生巨大的心理衝擊。唐納德甚至可能想到這一點,就足以凸顯這種心理衝擊。
接下來,等待莫斯科的回應。
克里姆林宮的屠夫應該被單程運往海牙。
有證據表明,美國的外交政策與執政黨或總統的名稱無關。

拋開言辭,美國對俄羅斯、伊朗、以色列、英國的政策沒有改變。拜登延續了川普的路線,川普也回歸了拜登的路線。
連克里姆林宮都已經被擊中了。川普現在大概處於昏迷狀態。不過,克里姆林宮被火燒了也挺好。
莫斯科和聖彼得堡周圍的每一個火力發電廠、大型變電站和機場都應該被摧毀。
美國越早用彈道飛彈擊穿克里姆林宮的窗戶越好。而且是擊中普丁的別墅。
那麼現在誰在拿第三次世界大戰來賭博呢?
普丁是。
一個巴掌拍不響。或者在這種情況下,只有北約和俄羅斯
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Well obviously, I like your pithy comment but a US president openly encouraging strikes on Moscow? Not good.
This is going to end with Ukraine getting nuked. If Russia goes down it will take Ukraine with it. Plus, if/when Putin is ousted his replacement will be a harder nationalist who will have no hesitation with using nukes.
Agree totally with the second point. There’s some magical thinking going on where Putin leaves and Russia becomes a liberal democracy. More likely a much worse tyrant emerges from the wreckage.
Trump is Lame ‼️
The Russians need something dramatic, such that they can surrender without looking like pushovers, and proudly take a bloody nose back home with them. A decapitation strike would be the most humane way to achieve this in my opinion, although arguably easier said than done.
Decapitation on Zelensky? The Russians are about to take pokrovsk...
Go away Russian troll
This feels like something taken completely out of context for a headline. Trump is a child with no filter, I expect this thought came to him so he blurted it out. No chance weapons are being provided to Ukraine with any view of attacking Moscow
I’ll end the war on day one…
Suppose the US had tried to invade Cuba and gotten stuck in a war of attrition on the eastern fringe of the island. Further suppose Russia and its allies (few and far between, but there are some) are supplying arms to Cuba. If then Cuba launches a drone and missile strike on say New York, how would the US then react? I am just asking.
What a sad indictment of Trump's ignorance. Ukraine has been desperate to hit targets within Russia for three years now and has been held back by the US and other allies denying permission to use those weapons supplied by Western forces to strike outside Ukraine's territory. Some of those constraints have been gradually relaxed, but too little and too late.

Also, what a sad indictment of Trump's callous indifference to human life. If Ukraine gets long-range weapons, they should aim them at military targets, not at civilian cities. That's what Russian war criminals do.
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Are you sure you are not talking about a certain country in the middle east that is indiscriminately bombing civilians with US and UK support? Civilian casualties are incalculably lower in Ukraine in comparison :)
So much for him staying out of foreign wars.
“Volodymyr, can you hit Moscow? . . . 
It's doubtfully if Trump can pronounce the name.
*it's doubtful 🧐
Not doubtfully
Sounding a little panicked there… maybe try another distraction tactic?
Hit them hard. Russia cannot walk into Europe, it is unacceptable. There is no other option. Show Russia, China and Iran that we are willing to go the whole way to defend our interests.
I’m sorry but how can you possibly include Iran in the same sentence as Russia?
You know a significant proportion of Russias weapons have come from Iran? It’s part of an axis.
Iran’s regime is oppressive no doubt but it doesn’t engage in land grabs, invasions like Russia or operate concentration camps like CCP.
You mean the new concentration camp planned for a certain region undergoing gen?
And what if they show you how they will defend their interests? You reckon YOU can win that fight? How big is your army? How many nukes you got?
China? The delusion is great with this one
The type of escalation nobody wants to see, however Putin somehow needs to be sent the message that he has to stop now. If he is allowed to win in Ukraine and impose his terms on them he won't stop there.

Putin wants the Russian sphere of influence back to what it was during the Soviet union. He cannot be allowed to achieve this.
I want to see escalation. I want to see Ukraine bomb the crap into Moscow. Why not?
I think most people would prefer it wasn't necessary, however there seems to be little choice in the end other than start sending some serious messages.
Surely this will only lead to escalations from the nut job in the Kremlin…dangerous times.
Moronic. Russia started the war and they must pay the price!
The parallels between Melania Trump telling Donald Trump every night another Ukrainian City has been bombed and Hillary Clinton refusing to talk to Bill Clinton until he bombed Serbia are quite something.
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And yet taking the war to Serbia did stop that conflict and the Serb nationalists’ violence and ethnic cleansing perpetrated against Bosnian Muslims. It also resulted in the trial and conviction of the Serbian leader at the time.

Not sure bombing Moscow would have the same effect. More likely it would trigger WW3.
warning- big war is coming!