俄罗斯人如何看待西方?(欧盟和美国)

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我是美国人。我有好朋友和同事,他们是俄罗斯人、保加利亚人、乌克兰人、波兰人等等。我问过他们的看法,请他们帮助我理解。

这是我对我们对话的摘要。

我的俄罗斯和保加利亚朋友喜欢俄罗斯的方式。他们了解俄罗斯/共产主义的方式,并且对拥有他们理解并为他们工作的经济和社会制度感到高兴。他们(一致地)怨恨欧洲和美国总是推动民主/资本主义制度。

他们告诉我,欧美制度混乱腐败,不尊重人

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这很复杂哈哈。我认为俄罗斯对西方的态度类似于另一个“缓冲”国家——土耳其。
我认为俄罗斯人害怕西方,对不被西方接受感到不满,很想成为西方的一部分。俄罗斯人认为自己是欧洲人,并希望其他人都认为他们是欧洲人。那时他们被中国人认为是欧洲人。

我认为俄罗斯最近与中国结盟是被迫的。俄罗斯人不想与中国“结盟”。虽然没有多少俄罗斯人对鸦片战争了解很多,更不用说俄罗斯在其中的作用了,但请不要误会


当前政治活跃的一代俄罗斯人中的绝大多数(16-60 岁)对西方有一种巨大的自卑感,他们试图通过贩卖战争、宣称俄罗斯的“独特道路”、简单化和未开发的自我意识来掩盖这种自卑感。爱国主义。

当这个“绝大多数”到西方旅行时,实际上他们能够接触和欣赏的西方文化非常少,这是由于最初设计用于制造“苏联人”的教育体系造成的主要是语言和更普遍的沟通障碍,谁没有出国,除了可能作为

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正式地,我们感到愤慨、道德优越感和爱国主义的高涨,这是任何西方国家都无法比拟的。

非正式地,我们感觉与太阳很合拍。

闪亮的球体肯定会在东方升起。但它会在当天剩下的时间里向西移动。世界另一端,美洲半球的人们证实,在夜间,太阳的作用几乎相同。

曾几何时,欧洲人涌向东方,为我们的帝国宫廷服务。记住彼得大帝和叶卡捷琳娜大帝。是外国人使他们被称为“伟大”。

但那个时代现在已经成为古老的过去。当共产党掌权时,我们的帝国精英西进。是的,正是共产主义的起源。

在第二次世界大战结束时,有一百万或更多人做了同样的事情。

苏联统治末期的犹太人也是如此。

然后,在后苏联时代至少有 300 万人效仿。

现在,当战争爆发时,大约有 1 到 200 万人沿着太阳前进的方向前进。

自从我们的资本主义开始以来,我们的寡头财富从未停止过向西转移。斯大林的女儿、赫鲁晓夫的儿子、戈尔巴乔夫的家人、普京的女儿,成千上万的子孙、妻子、我们当权者的情人——所有人都曾是西方的朝圣者。


在下面的地图上,您可以看到留守儿童的智商分布。你看,最聪明的人更喜欢欧洲。那些仍在亚洲的人涌向离欧洲最近的地区,那里的石油和天然气是从地下开采出来的。

如果你的 Quora 动态中的某个俄罗斯血统的人不断抨击西方的道德败坏和固有的愚蠢,那么他们这样做的可能性很大,因为他们在德国、美国、以色列或西方其他地方的家是安全的。猜猜他们中有人去东方的可能性有多大?

不管假媒体一直告诉你什么,我们都觉得与 Parov Stelar 的刺耳节拍合拍:

现在我要告诉我妈妈我是一个旅行者我要追随太阳”

地图标题:《俄罗斯全境智商分布》

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俗话说,“嘴巴说不要,身体倒是坚持诚实的嘛”,身(行)比口(说)诚实。

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人类是双语的……说一套做一套……行为主义者更多地关注个人的行为,而不是口语。

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嗯,是。否则他们就不会成为行为主义者。

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“双语”意味着能够说两种语言。说一套做一套是双向的。无论如何,正如第一位撰稿人所提到的,除了资本主义之外,西方还有很多好东西可以提供。极端资本主义——目前正在实行的是有问题的,共产主义也是如此。两者都不,

事实上,把人放在第一位。俄罗斯不能声称拥有比西方更好的人权记录,无论是过去还是现在。

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“极端资本主义——目前正在实行的是有问题的……”

你所说的“极端资本主义”是什么意思?极端资本主义意味着接近零监管。自从资本主义开始以来,政府对自由市场施加的监管并没有像现在这样多。我认为监管政策的数量正在增加而不是减少。

在我看来,我们西方现在的制度甚至都不是资本主义。它是社团主义,是想要将资本主义和社会主义结合起来的结果。因为要在资本主义经济中制定社会主义政策,你需要一个有足够权力实施这些政策和实施监管的政府。这就是危险所在。现在你遇到的情况是,公司游说小企业出于各种原因无法遵守的法规是有利可图的。

已故的 Walter E. Williams 在下面的文章中给出了一个很好的例子

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/story/opinion/columns/2015/08/28/walter-williams-fighting-for-economic/33618410007/

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从我在行为主义精神病学时代起,我就以行为主义者的身份发言,我们观察了“行为语言”,所以我不会在这个问题上迂腐。建议是,人们应该更加重视所涉及的各种角色的行为,而不是他们用来决定……的话语。
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我不是俄罗斯血统,但想投入我的两分钱。

显然,这场混乱最可悲的事情是对乌克兰人民的影响。然而,放眼更广阔的未来,这对欧洲的影响将持续数十年。可以理解的是,俄罗斯的历史造成了一种脆弱的感觉,但俄罗斯将独自对抗几乎整个欧洲大陆,现在几十年内都无法在其中发挥积极作用,如果有的话。事实上,即使俄罗斯没有受到全世界的鄙视,俄罗斯也很有可能会受到不信任和回避。如果 R

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Russia is a mirroring image of the United States. (I know, bold statement).

The modern Russian state is a byproduct of Eastern European expansion out east, which began in the late 15th century. The modern American state is a byproduct of Western European expansion out west, which began in the late 16th century.

The Baltic-Nordic-Slavic (Eastern European) Diaspora and Conquest eastward almost mirrors the timeline of the Britannic-Germanic-Hispanic (Western European) Diaspora and Conquest westward.

Timeline of Russia’s eastward expansion

Timeline of America’s westward expansion

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我不是俄罗斯人,我一生的大部分时间都在美国生活。但我担心:美国最近轻率地袭击了太多国家,杀害了太多无辜者,西方媒体散布了太多谎言,这在我看来要么是可怕的集体思维,要么是政府几乎全面控制;不知道哪个更糟。谁能说美国已经改革了,不会再做同样的事情了?

我最近没有看到太多俄罗斯媒体(可以说这比西方媒体更有价值——新闻业已死,宣传万岁),所以我不知道——他们有没有被

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