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貝蒂娜·費爾柴爾德
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具體來說，越南人是世界上對美國持最積極看法的國家之一： https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-love-americans
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順便一提——你沒聽說過越南士兵患有創傷後壓力症候群的一個重要原因是，他們被鼓勵講述自己的經歷。他們也歡迎回國的美國士兵，並鼓勵他們講述自己的經歷。真是了不起的人。愛德華·蒂克就此做了一個很棒的演講。戰爭創傷，如何辨識並治癒它們https://youtu.be/UvcHIeKRD_Y?si=3BqrwBUjAGYkrXat
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11 小時前
所以基本上越南文化允許獸醫談論他們的經驗？
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我有一個理論，這和他們的集體主義思考模式有很大關係。在這種思維模式中，社群成員不會被拋在後面，而是基於一種高度個人主義的男性主導心態，這種心態認為人們（主要是男性）必須獨自承受並憑藉力量去解決問題。在這方面，東亞文化相對來說更「女性化」。
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更重要的是每個人都參與了戰爭
曾在類似戰場或同一場戰爭中戰鬥過的老兵們往往會向彼此敞開心扉，分享他們的經歷，因為實際上沒有人能夠體會到你們所經歷的一切。
我們的身體潛意識裡知道，處理創傷經驗的唯一方法就是尋求結束，而這通常是透過更好的理解來實現的。
隨著戰爭的結束，你能聯絡的人越來越少。所以你開始不僅向與你並肩作戰的人尋求訊息，也向與你交戰的人尋求資訊。
我們有歷史記載，不僅在越戰中發生過這種情況，而且在美國內戰、美國獨立戰爭、兩次世界大戰、阿富汗戰爭、伊拉克戰爭以及幾乎所有你能想到的其他戰爭中也發生過這種情況。
我最喜歡看交戰雙方士兵在戰後數十年重聚的視頻，尤其是如果他們參加過同一場戰鬥的話。雙方都心知肚明，他們別無選擇，要嘛照做，要嘛戰死沙場。這種共識幾乎瞬間化解了談話中的緊張氣氛，通常也是第一個得到解答的問題。
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流浪蟲
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這解釋了很多。
幾年前，我和兩個當地人一起騎著摩托車，穿過鄉村，帶我們去看看城外「真正的鄉村」（這是他們的說法，但我們好奇心太強，就跟著他們去了）。出了城大約20分鐘，他們就告訴我們，他們的父母在戰爭中被美軍殺害了。
我完全不知道該如何回應，感到一陣尷尬。但他們倆都興高采烈地聊起了各自的童年和對美國人的看法，並鼓勵我們提問，盡可能開誠佈公地交流。他們邀請我們去朋友家作客，把我們介紹給認識的人。其中一位說了這樣的話：「你們的國家只是我們打過的眾多國家中的一個，你們只是我們歷史的一部分。」這句話深深地印在我的腦海裡。
令人難以置信的國家，令人驚嘆的人民，我真的希望有一天我能再次回來。
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9 小時前
我不知道，我想創傷後壓力症候群（PTSD）問題仍然存在。
無情的轟炸行動、導致整個軍團被摧毀的戰鬥、針對他們的化學攻擊等等
更不用說很多志工都未成年，甚至有孩子為了達到最低重量而把石頭放在口袋裡
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AmberDuke05
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在美國，美國士兵不願談論他們的經歷，並深感羞愧。我的姻親們會和任何想參軍的人聊戰爭的恐怖，但拒絕和其他人談論。
我認為，我們的社會不願談論士兵的經歷，無論好壞，都很尷尬。我們的政府和媒體對他們讚不絕口，以至於退伍軍人不敢談論真相。戰爭糟透了，或許不該被外行人盲目地慶祝。
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謹慎空間-1714
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原越盟第一個向哪個國家求助抵抗法國？
美國。
南方淪陷後，許多人紛紛逃離新政權。我小時候，新聞裡充斥著越南「船民」獲救並重新安置的故事。
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美國有大量越南裔美國人，他們仍然與未離開越南的家人保持聯繫，這可能會有所幫助。基本上，這些分離的家庭仍然保持著良好的聯繫。
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胡志明深受美國建國先賢的啟發，認為他們的意識形態與自己相連。他原本以為美國會支持他對抗法國殖民勢力，但我們就是個混蛋。
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我也愛你波蘭
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你得設身處地為越南人著想。對他們來說，越戰是民族自豪感和反抗的象徵。上個世紀，他們曾與日本、中國、美國以及柬埔寨高棉人作戰。這些戰爭都不是帝國主義戰爭。如今，戰爭已成為一種文化。
編輯：和法國人；）
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也忘了法語
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我們都這麼做了
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但多虧了法國人，我們才有了 Bahn Mi
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11 小時前
Fought America for 10 years
Fought France for 100 years
Fought China for 1000 years
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My understanding is that a lot of Vietnamese don't even hold it too much against the US these days. From their perspective, we were just kinda the flavor of the decade.
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A close relative of mine is a Vietnam vet and he went back to visit a few years ago. From everything he said the Vietnamese people were extraordinarily gracious toward him.
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The Vietnamese are very clear that it was the American War, and are quite proud of their resourcefulness and fortitude in the conflict. There seems to be very little animosity towards American people. For instance, I visited a restaurant that Bordain & Obama had been to and it was filled with their photos. FWIW, I only saw Da Nang and Hanoi.
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10 小時前
As an American i'm happy we have good relations as people's despite everything. Vietnam is a gorgeous country🇺🇲🇻🇳
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Americans don't even understand why Vietnam happened like was it a sunken battle shipor were we asked to join by the French and South Vietnam government.
Like its wild when you ask us why the fuck we were there.
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Probably because American soldiers didn't even want to be there.
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They fought the French too.
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UkrainianHawk240
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the last one (Cambodian Khmer) was like "hey, that shit's a genocide. We aint letting that go on motherfucker..." so they 'invaded' (im putting invaded in quotes because even though they invaded cambodia, the regime there was fucking insane)
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11 小時前
Behind the bastards podcast did a great multi episode on Pol Pot, what was interesting is the Cambodian political elite got into communism not because they agreed with Marx, but to specifically to be anti Vietnam. They hated Vietnam so much, ethnic vietnamese in Cambodia were the first to be purged when the Khmer Rouge began to seize power.
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Yep, “first they killed my father.” Great read of you want to read about a first hand account.
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Upper_Volume_6582
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Fuck Pol Pot
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Was it like that?
I'm no expert, but as far as I know the Khmer kept invading Vietnam and slaughtering Civilians, so Vietnam invaded, casually took their capital and then went "now leave as alone, okay?"
AmericanRoadside
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That's so Vietnam.
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No they didn't invade because Khmer rouge was doing a genocide, Khmer rouge attacked Vietnam.
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11 小時前
We certainly teach our children in the US about the Revolutionary War.
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CousinsWithBenefits1
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Yeppppp I have been to more than one American battle re enactment where we celebrated killing several British soldiers in the pursuit of our nation's independence.
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china multiple times in history. they’re fiercely independent
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You have to remember the American war in Vietnam was a civil war. It was mainly Vietnamese fighting against fellow Vietnamese. I have friends whose parents weren’t able to return for 20+ years after the war to visit family they left behind.
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Still a huge worldwide Vietnamese diaspora from this.
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You got to put yourself in the mindset of literaly in kid in the whole world. What kid doesn't like to be a pretend soldier? This shit looks fun as fuck. You know they are loving it.
TonyzTone
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Forgot France and the fact that it was all within like 60 years or so.
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Not every Vietnamese has the same mindset about the war. Don't forget that a large part of the population is descendants of the side that lost. It's complicated and nuanced, just like anywhere else. There is no "mindset of a Vietnamese person." Think about Americans and the Civil War, for example. Is there a "mindset of an American" about that?
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Their muzzle control is awful.
No-Combination8136
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Teacher on the sidelines screaming, “Don’t flag your buddies!”
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Easy, Sailor!
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Children shouldn't be given rifles anyway. Their small stature and weak phyisique make them much better suited to crew served weapons like emplaced machine guns and mortars.
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I love the smell of Capri-Sun in the morning.
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They nailed it, it's like I was there.
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You’re never too young to have a Vietnam flashback
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Oh man, I haven't seen Wondershowzen in ages.
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The horror...the horror!
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SWCollectorQuest
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11 小時前
Reminds me of an episode of American Dad where Stan becomes a POW and Steve gets PTSD
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We were gonna go cruisin in his solara man!
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This seemed like a great time to do acid!
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10 小時前
The spirits are dancing all around us! Poppin' and locking mostly
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Buckle couldn't find his legs!!!
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Or as the one person clarified. PTWRSD - post traumatic war reenactment stress disorder.
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Here's a machete. Keep it sheathed so it doesn't get dull...putthecaponsoitdoesn'tdryout.
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Oh say can you see by the dawn's early light...girl I'm gonna rock you, in freedom town tonight
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thats my.... sisters kid
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"In Country Club" There's almost no beat of that episode that doesn't land. The plots feed organically into one another. The Vietnam throughline never stops supporting the Steve/Stan story. Mind Quad. A true classic.
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Somewhere in the back is a rich kid pretending to have bonespurs and talking sht about all the others.
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Lucky barstard. He might end up president.
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Someone should write a song about that. "Privileged Kid" or something.
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Man I hope our kindergarten kids never have to go to war with theirs.
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this is cool and the production value surprisingly good. not always easy to wrangle/choreograph them at that age, especially not for full on combat
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Kinda reminds me of the civil war beanbag fight my school used to put on. Still pissed they got rid of that the year I was supposed to participate.
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oh i wish i was in the land of cotton,
beanbags there are not forgotten,
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Look away! look away! Look away, Beanbagland
(I am in no way condoning the slavery of Beanbagland….truly shocking)
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And then for the Agent Orange, they pour Fanta all over each other
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Popsicle sticks made into punji sticks.
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Lol we used chemical weapons on a civilian population, giving billions to a private chemical company and causing birth defects to this day!
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Assuming this is in Vietnam, where they are clearly ready for round 2.
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We all learn to take apart and put back together ak and carbine variants in highschool and uni classes. Shooting classes in highschool and uni is the norm here.
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Learning that in high school speaks volumes of how valuable they see that training.
You’d think that would be the norm in the US too from all the references here, but we prefer our gun owners to just figure things out on their own.
Well, that and the 2nd amendment die hard always cry “Gun ownership is our RIGHT - you can’t be puttin’ no restrictions on dat! No siree!”
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It’s true for many countries especially Soviet block. Nowadays it’s very watered down with things that are actually helpful (fire hazard drills, first aid training, CPR, Heimlich maneuver, traffic rules, wildlife hazards, internet safety and personal info protection, government related training like how to pay bills) but it can include a class on how to put a gas mask. I once put on a full hazmat suit, it was very fun.
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Vietnamese kids probably doing home defense drills.
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Not many countries can unequivocally claim victory over the United States along with every other world power that wanted to take their country from them. I'd be proud too.
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It has to be a sense of pride. Ho chi min loved America and viewed our democracy as the kind of government he wanted to install. He was talking to Americans. However, we decided Which stand by our allies, the French, and protect colonialisIf if anything is the antithesis of all we stand for. After we stood by the French friends, the russians grabbed him and indoctrinated him. Also, not to diminish their accomplishment, they had a lot of help from Russia and china. From the covert funding anti-warwar groups, they had russian pilots in the migs they sent up against us, russian advisors.and lots of logistical support from China and russia.
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h2ohow
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Exalting the thrill and glory of war with none of the gore and horror, like every other nation that won it's liberty through conflict.
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11 小時前
Honestly i would've loved this as a kid. We play cowboys n indians, airsoft, paintball, etc, so again, this woulda been a blast in elementary school.
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My only criticism is that those kids have to work on their throwing arms; most of those bean bag grenades took themselves out.
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NGL, that looks hella fun
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Directed by Max Fischer, Rushmore Class of ‘98
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Wtf
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11 小時前
“Seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate the children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn’t see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms.
我記得……我……我……我哭了。我像個老奶奶一樣哭得稀裡嘩啦。我恨不得拔掉自己的牙齒。我不知道自己想要做什麼。我想要記住這一切。我永遠不想忘記。我永遠不想忘記。然後我意識到……我就像被子彈擊中了……就像被一顆鑽石子彈擊中了……一顆鑽石子彈正中我的額頭。我心想：我的天哪……這真是個天才。天才。這意志力。完美、真誠、完整、晶瑩剔透、純粹。然後我意識到他們比我們強大。因為他們能夠承受，他們不是怪物。他們是男人……訓練有素的幹部。這些男人用心戰鬥，他們有家庭，有孩子，充滿愛……但他們有力量……有力量……去做到這一點。
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麥角酸
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11 小時前
這是啥來的？
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TeQuila10
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10小時前
《現代啟示錄》。這是一部虛構的電影，根本沒有發生過這樣的事。
NFL（越南共產黨）確實殺害了與美國人合作的村民，但我不知道這些行動是否有官方的死亡人數。
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akatthatdude1
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11 小時前
哥們，你們知道嗎，我自己也曾經嘗試過和平主義。當然不是在越南。
喲喲
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9 小時前
他們還指責電子遊戲導致了槍擊暴力，哈哈
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5小時前
我是美國人，也是歷史學家，但我的身體狀況不允許我表達我對這件事的感受
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